Here comes your second homework!
1. multi-wraps with handler in different positions: set a bar at your current cik&cap height and have a dog do multiple wraps around the wing. Change your position so that you're sometimes on take-off side, sometimes on landing side of the jump. Reward by reaching in with a toy to reward close to the wing. Multi-wraps should always be your first exercise when you put the bars on the next height and you should keep working on them on each height, it's great collection jumping exercise, I actually do some before every training, within our warm-up.
2. cik&cap sequencing: we'll mask this training for different handler positions and moves into a little sequence and include a tunnel for extra fun 🙂 Start with cap on one, try cik with handler on a landing side on 3, a shoulder pull from 4 to 5, cap with a front cross on 5, tunnel again and then push for another cik on 7. Reward in the direction of where I set number 8. Break it down in little parts first.
3. 2on2off vs. running: time to address contacts! Send a video of whatever you've got till now if you are already working on it. If you haven't done anything about it yet, those two videos show first step of 2on2off (at 3:13 of this video) - stopping in the position on a box/upside down drawer:
and running (at 1:30 of this video - I hope it's fine I used your video Gitte 🙂 ) - running over a long carpet:
If you haven't decided yet, you can work on both, using a box or up-side-down drawer for 2on2off and a carpet or a wide, thin plank for running contacts - and then see what you like better.
Hi. Here’s our sequence. Tonight it happened to be a little cooler (ONLY 28° at 20:00…) so we decided it was a good time to work. During the day it’s really awful. More than 40° and very, very humid.
There’s a first try and 2 full sequences.
Bye,
Laura & Shape
Ups, I forgot to say that there was no way for me to reward on the other direction after n.7, so I just turned and rewarded the other way. Hope it’s ok. My garden is not that big…
Cool! That’s amazing for a first try! Try to also include the voice next time so that I can check if you’e on time with your verbal cues! 🙂 You can also go 5cm up I think, with multi-wraps first.
Ok, thanks. Sure, I took the voice out because I was using a different camera and it was a little windy, and since it was so distant it didn’t record the voice very well. I’ll post the same video again with the voice (or anything you can hear…) so that you can check the verbal cues, and I’ll try to record another session and post it as well.
Oh, and by the way… I meant that this was the first try for that session. I had tried it before once, I had a very quick session just to try how it would go but it wasn’t planned, so I don’t have it recorded. It was very similar to this second session anyway.
No problem, just a note for future videos to include it -- if recorded of course 🙂
Hi. Here’s our sequence again, with the voice this time. I added 5cm to the jumps. She’s very lazy with multi wraps but, again, I blame it on the hot weather. And then there’s a session of channel waves.
Thanks for your comments.
L&S
Cool, she really wakes up when multi-wraps are over! You don’t need to do too many of those now that she knows the concept. The sequence went really well, great speed and the verbals are in time, but you could be somewhat sooner with your front crosses -- especially the one on 5 is really late. You need to prepare for front cross before she takes off, so that she knows what is your next move already. No other problems, weaves are going well too, start starting her somewhat off line already now and you can put them closer too, it’s just for the first lesson (or first half of a first lesson) that I set them that wide.
Ok, thank you.
Heres the sequencing excerise. Again you’ll see Buzz knocking the bars alot. In the last run I used the frisbee as his reward to see if he’d actually focus when he knew I had it as it’s his most favourite thing in the entire world! And he did!
I’ve got video of multi wraps (kinda ok, kinda not!) but it takes too long to upload so I’ll do that tomorrow
said the wrong word at the first dig (I use ‘dig’ for left and ‘cap’ for right) but he got it right anyway. I suppose it’ll get easier in time, I rely on the colour of his legs to remind me which is left and right, so it doesn’t help with my other dog who’s legs are all black! Will have to use just one word and a different word altogether for her I think!
Yeap, different colour legs (or ears!) sure help 🙂 No problem if you mix it up sometimes, it happens to everybody, but as long as the body language is clear, they will go with the body language.
Great obstacle focus, great speed and very tight on all difficult approaches, but somewhat wider on 5. As you mastered the rest already, focus on 5 and the same approach from the other side of a tunnel to the other jump, you can first ask for some multi wraps in those situations and then go back to just one wrap from that angle -- tunnel -- another wrap on the other jump (to practise cik and cap) -- tunnel.
Ok, will do, thanks!
Heres some multi wraps
Cool! Let’s try with more height now.
Hi Silvia,
Here’s a clip of Harley’s weave training unedited apart from deleting the play in between so as not to waste your time! -- this is after a few days break during which we have been doing the sequence.
There is so much to do so we don’t practise weaves every day -- is that OK? The poles are now on 220mm -- should I close them?
We also shot the sequence but the angle was such that you could not see how tight he wraps the jump wing so we will try again on Tuesday!!
Sure, you don’t need to practise weaves every day!!! I prefer to start from a restrain, though, because you can feel better where he is going to go 🙂 AND you can really change the approach a bit for every try (you can leave a marker on the floor to know where you last started). It also makes it more difficult as flying over the jump takes him so far that the first half of the video shows pretty much straight entries. Starting from that point without the jump would be way more challenging. So it’s time to add even some more difficulties to the entries. And yes, you can definitely close the channel some more -- like 3cm to start with -- and then another 2 or 3 every other session.
Hi Silvia, I`ve got a question about the sequence. Is there a shoulder pull from 4 to 5 or is there one from 3 to 4? Thank you for the coming help I need to master this sequence.
If you do a front cross on 3, then you have a push for 4 (if you don’t FC 3, then you have to shoulder pull and then RC 4 -- but you don’t want to do that, FC + a push is much better). After 4, you need to pull her to you to see 5 and then cue a turn on 5.
Here’s some of Ziva running 2/3 of the dog walk on the ground to a bowl of treats and some of her on the a frame. I had taught 2 on 2 off but I must admit I am really interested in training running contacts with her. I trained 2 on 2 off with my other 2 dogs so I’m out of my comfort zone with running contacts but willng to try. As you can see she does slow to get her contact and this isn’t her fastest: I think she needs to start further back to get her full drive. we had a nasty moment in doing the multiple cik and caps early on. She came round so tight that she went through the wing and it stuck round her as she ran on. I’m amazed she’s happy to do jumps at all but if we go to do the multiple wraps she just goes back to her mat or goes and stands on a contact. That’s her way of telling me she’s not happy doing it but willing to do something else. From experience she probably just needs 2-4 week away from doing this exercise, she’s fine in the house doing cik and cap round a pole and is happy to jump in sequences so we’ll hopefully get this worked through. We’ve tighten in the weaves and are practising our entries and she’s going well (not on video). will post video shortly
Huh, this won’t work. She is not slowing down to get the contact, she is slowing down to get the food and as soon as there won’t be any food… So either go back to 2on2off to not confuse her even more or go for a real running, using a carpet and having her chase a toy over it (or, if she won’t do that, having food out there, but MINIMALLY 5m away). Also, why are you doing 2on2off on A-frame and “running” on DW? That doesn’t make any sense, running A-frame is much easier to train and handle, so if you decide for running, so definitely want to do it on both obstacles.
It’s o.k. to give her a break from multi-wraps, sure. Also, when you next start, ideally, you would use a jump without a wing… -- do you have one?
Ok, this is how it was making sense in may head, it’s probably not right but thats way i’m on the course.
1. Training 2 on 2 off on both AF and DW.
2. In my head I wasn’t asking for contact on the DW flat on ground in the video just asking for drive across it.
3. she will do 2 on 2 off in isolation and if i stop but if I keep moving she tends to keep going which is what you saw on the AF when i actually ask for a contact
4. I’ve never trained RC so i don’t know what equipment is easiest to do it on.
5. I couldn’t train her over the AF flat as I live alone and can’t put it back together again to train my other dogs on.
6. Don’t have jumps without wings but but have something that will do instead to start with.
I’m basically in a dilemma over 2on2off or RC at the moment: 2on 2off is my safe option but RC if trained right seem to have some real benefits but at the minute I’m stuck in no mans land and making a mess of everything:-(
Yes, I think the most important thing is to decide what you want and then go for it. You can try some running on carpet and see how you like it and then decide, just don’t do two different things on a real equipment (as in the video) just yet. To answer your dilemmas:
2. That’s a very good plan for RC! -- To forget about the contact and focus on running! That’s exactly why food so close to the plank that she needs to start stopping on a plank already is contra productive.
3. To get 2on2off also when moving, you just need to train for that (see the 2on2off video I posted).
4. That’s exactly why I posted videos of first steps for both options (running over a carpet for RC and stopping on a box for 2on2off).
5. That’s no problem if you decide to train RC for both, I never work on flat A-frame then. You would need flat A-frame if you wanted running A-frame, but 2on2off on DW.
I think I’d better get out of my comfort zone and enroll in your running contacts course:-)))
Cool! I’m sure she will love it!
Silvia,
Where did you post your 2o2o contact video?
Thank you
The first step of 2on2off is showed at 3:13 of a tricks video I posted. It’s not my video, I don’t do 2on2off with my dogs -- I do it as a trick, but never on a real equipment -- well, some on the see-saw, I’ll post a see-saw video in the next lesson.
I am training Fury for both RC and 2o2o. Here is video of where we are at w 2o2o. Have not put the stop on a full dw yet. RC dw is going well and at full height. Have not done much w aframe yet.
It says it’s private…
see if this link works
Looks great! Make sure you use a different verbal cue for DW when asking for it on DW -- and backchain it first. Try to start with A-frame before that, so that she is not confused about running vs. stopping there as I guess you only want running there.
Hi Silvia, here my second video from the wraps (this time to the right 🙂 and the other excercice with the tunnel. Enjoy it
Getting there! Somewhat wide sometimes -- especially when first trying figure 8 -- but the trend is good, he was getting tighter&tighter, multi-wraps on figure 8 sure helped a lot to tighten him up. The sequence went very well too, only the last wrap could be tighter. So the best thing to do in this situation would be to not reward that one, but ask for multi-wrap first.